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My proposal for the lay-out of the last version:
When Waze gives navigation instructions to "turn", "exit", or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment {{u|further along your route}}, it will use (inherit) that name in the instruction.
The inherited name is only used in the displayed and spoken instruction prompts, it does not affect the actual name of the segment.
'''This always works for {{Freeway|Freeways}} and {{Ramp|Ramps}}.'''<br />
{{As of|January 2015}}, '''on all other road types''', this feature only works if:
# The combined length of the consecutive unnamed segments is shorter than 400 meters (1,312 feet), <br />AND
# There are 3 or less unnamed segments in a row.
To explain the above conditions from another perspective:
If the consecutive unnamed segments measured together are longer than 400 m (1,312 ft), or if there are 4 or more unnamed segments in a row, Waze will '''NOT''' show or speak a name in the instructions.
{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|User:PesachZ/Navigation instructions for unnamed segments/Expanded||:''For a more detailed explanation, including side effects and usage examples, please see the [[User:PesachZ/Navigation_instructions_for_unnamed_segments/Expanded|Expanded Navigation instructions for unnamed segments]] page.''}}
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When a user is routed through an unnamed segment, Waze will automatically use the name of the next named segment on the route. This is useful for getting turn instructions on ramps and turn lanes. This can be confusing in large parking lots.
Note: Technical source is [[User:PesachZ/Road name inheritance]], which would probably be a good "for more detailed info" or a "see also" link... eventually updated to watever page s actually created for it. Also, that page will be transcludable with a short summary version, which may make sense to transclude here.
 
=Version 1=
When a user is routed through an unnamed segment, Waze will automatically use the name of the next named segment on the route. This is useful for getting turn instructions on ramps and turn lanes. This, however, can be confusing in large parking lots.
 
==When Waze uses a name for an unnamed segment==
Waze sometimes uses a name for an unnamed segment in a driving instruction. When Waze gives driving directions to turn, exit, or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment a little further along your route, it will use that name in the instruction.


==When ==
{{As of|January 2015}}, on most road types, this can be prevented. If "segment 1" is the segment following the "turn", "keep", or "exit" instruction:
# the length of segment 1 and the unnamed segments that follow it adds up to 400m or more. AND
# segment 1 is followed by 3 or more unnamed segments.
In this case, when Waze gives instructions to turn into this segment, it will not show or speak a name for the segment. These rules for prevention are ignored for ramp and freeway road types.


For example, if the next turn is a left onto an unnamed parking lot road and then right onto Main Street, Waze will give directions to turn left onto Main Street and then right onto Main Street.
=Version 2=
When a user is routed through an unnamed segment, Waze will automatically use the name of the next named segment on the route (name inheritance). This is useful for getting instructions on ramps and turn lanes. This, however, can be confusing in other areas, like large parking lots.


{{As of|January 2015}}, this behavior will be prevented on every road EXCEPT ramps and freeways if
==Conditions for name inheritance==
# the unnamed segment is more than 400 meters long. OR
When Waze gives driving directions to turn, exit, or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment further along your route, it will use (inherit) that name in the instruction. This always works for freeways and ramps.  
# the unnamed segment is followed by 3 or more unnamed segments before the next named segment.
In this case, when  Waze gives  instructions to turn into this segment, it will not show or speak a name for the road.


==Applications==
{{As of|January 2015}}, on all other road types, this feature only works if:
;exit ramp
# the length of the unnamed segments is shorter than 400m, <br />AND <br />
:If a freeway exit ramp leads to a fork in the road, you can leave the name out of the exit ramp. Only name the ramp segments which go to a specific destination. Waze will use the name of the next named ramp after the unnamed exit ramp. This is only useful if the sign for the exit is the same as the sign for the named ramp.
# there are no more than 4 unnamed segments in a row.


;cross street changes name at divided highway
If the unnamed segments taken together are longer than 400 meter, or if there are 4 or more unnamed segments in a row, Waze will '''NOT''' show or speak a name in the instructions.
:an unnamed segment in the median of the divided roadway ....


;parking lot with unnamed roads
=Examples=
:if there is a turn/keep instruction onto an unnamed road just before the named road outside the parking lot, Waze will give instructions to make a turn INSIDE the parking lot with a name from OUTSIDE the parking lot. This is confusing for drivers.
[[File:Inheritance_exit_ramp.PNG|thumb|right]]
;exit ramp
:If a freeway exit ramp leads to a fork in the road, you can leave the name off of the exit ramp. Only name the segments which go to a specific destination. Waze will use the name of the next named segment after the unnamed exit ramp. This is only useful if the sign for the exit is the same as the sign for the next named segment.
{{clear}}


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[[File:InheritanceDividedHighway.JPG|thumb|right]]
;Connecting street between the lanes of a divided highway
:If routing  from segment A (US-202 N) over the unnamed segment, Waze will use (inherit) the name of the next segment B in the instruction: "Go left to Beta Blvd" If routing from segment C (US-202 S) over the unnamed segment, Waze will use (inherit) the name of the next segment D in the instruction "Go left to Delaney Dr".
{{clear}}


:(To me, it remains unclear what happens if an unnamed ramp is longer than 400 meters or have more than three segments, and the next named segment is not a freeway or ramp, e.g., when going to a major highway). -- moweez
;[[file:InheritedName2segments.jpg|thumb|right]]parking lot with unnamed roads
:: I believe the rules about 400m OR 3 mor unnamed roads applies (except for 2types) ONLY to the "instruction for maneuver into unnamed" segment. I also believe we will continue to be unhappy in parking lots until we have name, "none" and "inherit" for segment name options. --[[User:Voludu2|Voludu2]] ([[User talk:Voludu2|talk]]) 01:40, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:If the route leads from unnamed parking lot roads to a named road outside the parking lot, Waze might use the road name in instructions for turns INSIDE the parking. This is confusing for drivers. It is a drawback of the feature. For example, coming from segment A, if the next turn is a left to segment 1, and than right to segment 2 (Main Street), Waze will give the instruction to turn left at segment onto Main Street, while still in the middle of the parking lot road...

Latest revision as of 13:43, 3 May 2015

My proposal for the lay-out of the last version:

When Waze gives navigation instructions to "turn", "exit", or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment further along your route, it will use (inherit) that name in the instruction.

The inherited name is only used in the displayed and spoken instruction prompts, it does not affect the actual name of the segment.

This always works for  Freeways  and  Ramps .


As of January 2015, on all other road types, this feature only works if:

  1. The combined length of the consecutive unnamed segments is shorter than 400 meters (1,312 feet),
    AND
  2. There are 3 or less unnamed segments in a row.

To explain the above conditions from another perspective: If the consecutive unnamed segments measured together are longer than 400 m (1,312 ft), or if there are 4 or more unnamed segments in a row, Waze will NOT show or speak a name in the instructions.


For a more detailed explanation, including side effects and usage examples, please see the Expanded Navigation instructions for unnamed segments page.


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Note: Technical source is User:PesachZ/Road name inheritance, which would probably be a good "for more detailed info" or a "see also" link... eventually updated to watever page s actually created for it. Also, that page will be transcludable with a short summary version, which may make sense to transclude here.

Version 1

When a user is routed through an unnamed segment, Waze will automatically use the name of the next named segment on the route. This is useful for getting turn instructions on ramps and turn lanes. This, however, can be confusing in large parking lots.

When Waze uses a name for an unnamed segment

Waze sometimes uses a name for an unnamed segment in a driving instruction. When Waze gives driving directions to turn, exit, or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment a little further along your route, it will use that name in the instruction.

As of January 2015, on most road types, this can be prevented. If "segment 1" is the segment following the "turn", "keep", or "exit" instruction:

  1. the length of segment 1 and the unnamed segments that follow it adds up to 400m or more. AND
  2. segment 1 is followed by 3 or more unnamed segments.

In this case, when Waze gives instructions to turn into this segment, it will not show or speak a name for the segment. These rules for prevention are ignored for ramp and freeway road types.

Version 2

When a user is routed through an unnamed segment, Waze will automatically use the name of the next named segment on the route (name inheritance). This is useful for getting instructions on ramps and turn lanes. This, however, can be confusing in other areas, like large parking lots.

Conditions for name inheritance

When Waze gives driving directions to turn, exit, or "keep" onto an unnamed segment, it will look for a name it can use. If there is a named segment further along your route, it will use (inherit) that name in the instruction. This always works for freeways and ramps.

As of January 2015, on all other road types, this feature only works if:

  1. the length of the unnamed segments is shorter than 400m,
    AND
  2. there are no more than 4 unnamed segments in a row.

If the unnamed segments taken together are longer than 400 meter, or if there are 4 or more unnamed segments in a row, Waze will NOT show or speak a name in the instructions.

Examples

exit ramp
If a freeway exit ramp leads to a fork in the road, you can leave the name off of the exit ramp. Only name the segments which go to a specific destination. Waze will use the name of the next named segment after the unnamed exit ramp. This is only useful if the sign for the exit is the same as the sign for the next named segment.
Connecting street between the lanes of a divided highway
If routing from segment A (US-202 N) over the unnamed segment, Waze will use (inherit) the name of the next segment B in the instruction: "Go left to Beta Blvd" If routing from segment C (US-202 S) over the unnamed segment, Waze will use (inherit) the name of the next segment D in the instruction "Go left to Delaney Dr".
parking lot with unnamed roads
If the route leads from unnamed parking lot roads to a named road outside the parking lot, Waze might use the road name in instructions for turns INSIDE the parking. This is confusing for drivers. It is a drawback of the feature. For example, coming from segment A, if the next turn is a left to segment 1, and than right to segment 2 (Main Street), Waze will give the instruction to turn left at segment onto Main Street, while still in the middle of the parking lot road...